Janus Oasis - episode 3 - Renée Lindo - Styling Your Way To Empowerment
[00:00:03] Nola Simon: Thank you for joining us for another episode of the I'm Nola Simon. And today we're joined by Renée Lindo, who is the owner of Let's Get Dressed Now. And I met Renee on LinkedIn. So, Renee, would you like to introduce yourself and your business.
[00:00:20] Renée Lindo: Awesome. Thank you so much for having me know, let you so awesome to be here.
[00:00:25] Renée Lindo: I'm glad you asked me. And when I think about you've The mentioned LinkedIn, I think about LinkedIn and LinkedIn is such a fabulous place. Long love meeting my connections. From LinkedIn and really what can happen from there. So just a little bit about me. So, Renee Lindo, I’m personal stylist and I see that I like to guide women on their style journeys from confused and overwhelmed to confident and killing it because when we really understand how to leverage our style, the new style as a tool, it really allows us to be more open to opportunities and to [00:01:00] attract those opportunities By aligning style and their personal brand is really what I help a women to do. Yeah, so that's a bit about me and my background. I come from corporate pharmaceuticals and national sales leader, and I just knew that I loved it as very successful, but it has gotten to a point where I just wanted to play bigger and do more.
[00:01:21] Renée Lindo: And I knew that when I looked good when I was dressed low and I put myself together it really changed my mindset. It changed what I was available for. It changed what I wanted to put myself forward for put my hand up for. So I really felt more confident. And I said, if I could help women to also do that, and this is what I wanted to spend my time.
[00:01:42] Renée Lindo: It's one thing to climb and you spend a lot of your years in your career building a career climbing to the top of your Mala. 10 and one day I looked through one, I'm like, oh my goodness. On the top of my launch and what, yikes. This is a wrong motive where this is not really where I [00:02:00] think I want to spend the rest of my time.
[00:02:01] Renée Lindo: So I've spent years reaching to the top here, but I think I want to be open to it. And so I decided to step away from corporate. About three years ago, I launched my business. Let's get dressed now. And so I help clients one-on-one with their, from their closets to building up professional wardrobes, to working with corporate clients as well, helping them with their employees.
[00:02:24] Renée Lindo: I'm
[00:02:24] Nola Simon: I’m actually getting chills while you speak, because I can understand the impact of that so much because I'm on sabbatical right now. I was restructured back in November of 2020, and one thing that I really structured as a struggled with was, how do we dress? Like I get up in the morning and I'm like, I don't have a dress code anymore.
[00:02:41] Renée Lindo: What do I didn't own a pair of. Yeah,
[00:02:48] Nola Simon: it felt weird for that because I was wearing dress pants just to walk the dog. And it's just what store do I go to? Because I always used to go to like certain stores and now it's this doesn't fit my life. And so it's a whole pivot [00:03:00] and I'd be working from home too.
[00:03:01] Nola Simon: But I had kept that corporate habit of really just following the dress code, even though I do working from home for almost 10. And so that's where I've always been really interested in your in, in your content and your feed on LinkedIn. You did actually inspire my branding colors too, when I started if you ever take a look at Renee on LinkedIn, now I'll put the link in her.
[00:03:25] Nola Simon: And the show notes. She has a fabulous pink background and a lot of her wardrobe, and her sample pieces are that lovely, hot pink. And so I borrowed that from you,
[00:03:34] Renée Lindo: Oh, I'm so glad. I'm glad it served you. We may bring up a good point. You talk about your walking and what you were wearing to work, and then when your life changed it doesn't fit anymore.
[00:03:46] Renée Lindo: And that's what we're seeing. I'm dealing with a lot with science now, after the, through dependent. And life has changed, right? Even if it's, even if you're, if it's your same job, but it's changed maybe in terms of how you're working, whether you're [00:04:00] working from home fully, or you're doing a hybrid, or are you doing what, whatever it is, it's something has changed and even culturally.
[00:04:09] Renée Lindo: And that has also changed what's what is acceptable in certain work environments, certain industries now that has also changed with, see, we're seeing them more, what they call quote unquote, casualization of work attire. And so that has changed. And the other thing that I added to that I should say, pre pandemic and post pandemic are three almost sometimes complete.
[00:04:32] Renée Lindo: You did. Feelings different vibes, different types of wardrobes, even if you're at the same job now that you were in 2019 or early 2020, you may not be that same person. You may not want to wear those same clothes. You just, you may no longer resonate with that. Yeah. So the
[00:04:53] Nola Simon: mentality change, you need different things, your clothes, right?
[00:04:58] Nola Simon: Like you may be that [00:05:00] person who always wore black and now you're that person beautiful, bright,
[00:05:07] Renée Lindo: beautiful, bright green. Yes. Because during this time a lot of people done a lot of soul searching. They're really thinking, they're thinking about life in general. They think about, wanting to be more intentional or they're thinking about how they want to show up for themselves, for their family.
[00:05:22] Renée Lindo: And that may not be that may no longer serve them, that what they wore to work or even that job, just me not connect with them anymore. And and then you add to that, of course, those extra poems that many of us have also put on during that time. The clothes may not fit. So there are quite a few different factors that, that influence or are not able to impact call.
[00:05:47] Renée Lindo: We are showing up now or want to show up or choose to show up that really, we need to be talked about or at least thought about I should see. And that's
[00:05:56] Nola Simon: actually all levels too. So, it's a really important personal branding [00:06:00] thing. That could even help you with your progress in corporate, right?
[00:06:05] Renée Lindo: Oh, absolutely. And I talk about that a lot to know that in terms of our personal brand and how we're showing up on LinkedIn, how we show up at work, how we show up in front of our clients and, Some people don't understand it. Doesn't a personal brand is not just for a person who owns a business or has something to sell you.
[00:06:24] Renée Lindo: Your purse. Everybody has a personal brand, whether you're an employee or an entrepreneur, and it follows you wherever you go. So it is so important. You as the person you represent your brand, it's not, people will spend tons of money creating their marketing assets, creating a resume writer to fine tune their resume, make it all fabulous and beautiful.
[00:06:47] Renée Lindo: All the great words. But then they don't think about how they're showing up. How are they? Representative of the marketing assets, if it's a business person or that resume, because when they, when the tool [00:07:00] meets whether you come from Eagle for an interview or you are at a meeting or you meet, you're meeting your client, if what they see in the marketing pieces or your resume, doesn't align with how you show up and what they.
[00:07:15] Renée Lindo: That you, what they think you should look like or what they expect section where they expect of this role, then you have a disconnect, and right or wrong. Yes. We should not judge people. That's not right. Nobody wants to feel that they're being judged or that they're judged. But a part of human nature is this just first impressions.
[00:07:34] Renée Lindo: People, people and you make up, you just think whatever. Your background, and your experience. And so it's important that go ahead. It's storytelling,
[00:07:46] Nola Simon: right? So it's not us. The story flow. Do you fit into the story that you're presenting? And if you do. Why not. And what's exactly.
[00:07:56] Nola Simon: And it's
[00:07:58] Renée Lindo: wired. [00:08:00] Yes, exactly. And that's the part, cause then we, the human brain won't have to make a decision. It wants to be right. So it's looking for all of the pieces to make their initial decision. And this is that point you made about stories. So two, because we are telling a story in our clothes or clothes, tell our story.
[00:08:17] Renée Lindo: It's the way that we communicate it is how we say who we are to introduce yourself to the world. And so, it's a two way street. It's also how they receive us. And I always tell my clients that we control the negative. We can control how we show up. We can control how we are seen. So let's do that.
[00:08:35] Renée Lindo: And then let's not allow someone else to tell our story. Yeah. Because if someone else tells our story, it may not be the story that you want to be.
[00:08:44] Nola Simon: And if you're wearing a piece of clothing, I should, somebody told me the other day, they had gone for an interview in a borrowed suit that didn't fit.
[00:08:51] Nola Simon: And it just really collapsed her energy and she felt uncomfortable the entire time. And it just, she didn't end up presenting well, [00:09:00]
[00:09:00] Renée Lindo: so the clothes weren't really hurts. That is what that is such a, that is such a big point. We talk about, or I talk about energy a lot. And when you're not feeling.
[00:09:10] Renée Lindo: Your best when you're not feeling like you look great and you're on. And you're like, yes, it just, it SAPs your energy and you're not able to show up. Really short showcasing your mood, your vibe, everything that you can offer. It just changes. Let me tell you, it's not just me saying, so actually there's actual data that, that talks about it's called enclothed cognition.
[00:09:36] Renée Lindo: That talks about how the clothing that we wear changes, what we're available for. It changes what we feel we can accomplish, and it changes our mood, all of that. He may just say, oh, it's just clothes that you put on. It changes just like you think of a power suit. Yes. You put a power suit on and it gives you there's no snow magical energy in this power suit when you put it on because it fits well.
[00:09:58] Renée Lindo: It fits your body. [00:10:00] You feel fantastic. It's in your winning color. When you put that baby on my goodness, it just changes your event.
[00:10:08] Nola Simon: Yeah, it's funny because our CT, thank goodness. We don't have shoulder pads. Like we used to do in the eighties.
[00:10:17] Renée Lindo: Shoulder pads are coming back,
[00:10:21] Renée Lindo: but more defined shoulders. Yeah, defined shoulders I can handle right years. Maybe not, but yeah no. That's no.
[00:10:33] Nola Simon: And in case you actually wanted to know whether Rene's advice works, you should know that LinkedIn has picture for the creator accelerator program. And she was also recently featured in Dan rots, a newsletter he's the editor in chief for LinkedIn.
[00:10:49] Nola Simon: And so he had picked her in, featured her. And her advice about fashion. So if that helps you with, in terms of price is something you want to follow them. That's definitely [00:11:00] something that influenced me. I'm very,
[00:11:02] Renée Lindo: very afraid. Thank you. I think also from that, that that article, thanks for bringing that up.
[00:11:09] Renée Lindo: No alum, because I was really glad to see that, but I think when they were talking about this, about how as a business person, how you can use how you use linked in, so change your business or something like that. And if something like that's even how we met. So there's something that I really decided to do with it when I started, when I decided to really move in on LinkedIn and really spend some time there.
[00:11:29] Renée Lindo: I said okay, it's great to have all these collectors. But I wonder does that mean, because I really didn't know nor these people, but I said, I really wanted to get to know my network back. I really want it was wanted to bring my network to life. And so I reached out to folks who I thought were interesting or engaging with my content, just to get to know them before.
[00:11:50] Renée Lindo: A quick chat and I have to tell you that's so powerful because of many of the folks who to this day continue to engage. And we have good [00:12:00] conversation on LinkedIn are people who I reached out with and who there is some type of connection because they know, because we spoke for 15 minutes, they knew they know who I am as a person.
[00:12:12] Renée Lindo: And so it just makes it any that I know, and this is obligated, but they'll see my stuff in their feed and they want to support. And likewise, I want to support them because the person and that just really underscores my feeling about business and in life. It's all about relationships.
[00:12:29] Renée Lindo: Yeah,
[00:12:29] Nola Simon: no, absolutely. But there's also credibility to that too. I was actually watching an interview this morning and the person being interviewed was talking about negotiation and they actually said they had two groups, one group actually talked to each other and got to know each other a little bit, maybe five minutes before the actual deals were struck.
[00:12:47] Nola Simon: And then the other group just went straight into negotiation. And the grip that went straight into negotiation did well. But the group that took five minutes to get to know each other better closed 90% more deals. And it was actually [00:13:00] higher value.
[00:13:01] Renée Lindo: Oh, that's so powerful. The
[00:13:03] Nola Simon: power of connection. And so there's definitely strength to, to that process.
[00:13:09] Nola Simon: And I think that's incredible being able to do better. So I remember we did that briefly too. I think it was
[00:13:15] Renée Lindo: even a thing that it's like,
[00:13:18] Nola Simon: Yeah, Renee is super cool and she's definitely, everything that she says in her content. So
[00:13:23] Renée Lindo: thank you. I was loving it when I
[00:13:27] Nola Simon: popped, when you pop up in my
[00:13:28] Renée Lindo: feed.
[00:13:28] Renée Lindo: So thanks. I likewise, I love your content as well. Oh, thank you so much.
[00:13:35] Nola Simon: Since we mentioned that let's talk about hybrid. So the key for hybrid work, what's your best advice in terms of creating like a capsule wardrobe that transitions from, the time that you're at home, whether you're parenting or, with your refer babies or whatever it is you do at home while you work at home and then taking that and putting that into the office without spending huge amounts of money, to have two sets of.
[00:13:59] Renée Lindo: [00:14:00] Exactly. Hybrid work is, that's what we're coming. That's what it's going to be. I think for most employers, more ways of moving forward with work. And of course, that better than I do, there's going to be some type of merge between home time or even just being virtual and being face-to-face and , so we've been, two years or so of sweatpants and just very casual.
[00:14:26] Renée Lindo: Yeah to know you have to show up for work. And I mentioned before, lots of companies are not them. They've relaxed a lot of their dress codes. So I really, what we're seeing is really more of a balanced and a balance between being comfortable, but also being polished. So comfortable.
[00:14:43] Renée Lindo: And that's what we're, I'm coining hybrid attire hybrid working clothes, clothing. Is appropriate for you to be on your virtual calls and meetings as to be comfortable at home, and then being able to use those same clothing into that.[00:15:00] So we may not be doing as an example. We may not be seeing being, being sorry.
[00:15:05] Renée Lindo: We may not be wearing suits full suits because it may be that it's made read too formal, but instead of for women, maybe it's more of a sweater type jacket that has stretch and that's comfortable that you can still wear, but you still have some type of structure to it, or even maybe a bomber jacket.
[00:15:25] Renée Lindo: A straight laced street blaze up per se, but something that has a little bit more move a little bit more give there's still a lot of emphasis on the, on being comfortable, right with, we want comfort, right? We want to still show up well and look polished, but comfort very is still very important.
[00:15:41] Renée Lindo: Even if you look at the trends in terms of what we're wearing. That oversized trend is there, whether it's oversized jackets, lasers, loose hands loose baggy wide leg pants. So those, lead to, or lean to being more comfortable. And of course, that's [00:16:00] going to translate into the office and into the wardrobe.
[00:16:02] Renée Lindo: And retailers really are answering us and really making creative. Clothing that has stretched. So that's the one, the thing about hybrid, I really purchase it. Look for pieces that have stretched. They're going to move that are going to stretch with you as you go about your day. If you're at pieces that don't have stretch, just tend to be more confining and not as comfortable and people don't want.
[00:16:23] Renée Lindo: So really we were in hanging out in that all day, but pieces that have stretched that are great material. Fabrics that are going to breathe with you. And looser cuts, not things in there that aren't fitted sweater. Dresses are very popular right now. And there's a great fall work as well.
[00:16:41] Renée Lindo: Put them on with some knee-high boots. Maybe we were a longer oversized leaves or a jacket if that's too boxy at a belt. So you still allowing your personality come through. You're still comfortable in that sweater dress or that Nick. And then you still have some formality if that's what you want with a blazer on top, or maybe a [00:17:00] set a cardigan, so you still have that stretch, right? So there are tons of things that clothing that we can wear to really allow a percent to come through allows us to be comfortable, but yet still. In the office. I know
[00:17:15] Nola Simon: seeing people mixing like I'm high and low light, my kids are very focused on thrifting and making sure that they're not contributing to, environmental problems by, engaging in too much fast fashion.
[00:17:27] Nola Simon: So like how do you advise mixing and matching?
[00:17:30] Renée Lindo: So you create. Yes, a big fan of a proponent of mixing high and low. I always, I was recommended that a functional water really want probably about 80% of your water up to be classic timeless pieces that you're gonna wear a, for a long time to pieces.
[00:17:52] Renée Lindo: And how do you determine what those are? Those are pieces that fit your personality. They fit your. And there's no [00:18:00] use if you are, if you're, if your industry is very casual, but you should be investing in suits, full. So it's really thinking of being intentioned as my big bird. Think about your lifestyle and the pieces that are going to support your life.
[00:18:14] Renée Lindo: So in terms of mixing 80% should be pieces that 80% of your water should be functional that can take it through whether you have a meeting to go to you're working from home that type of thing, more structured, and then be 22% can be stuff that are quote unquote trends or more current. Just add a little bit of, a little bit of excitement to your water, or just to feel a little bit more like you're in fashion or unset in styler.
[00:18:40] Renée Lindo: But the, your entire water shouldn't be that because then you'll be constantly rebuying right. If, because trends, move trends change every few months. So you don't build a sustainable, long-term investing in that, but you can have a base water of great basics, great grades target next or layering [00:19:00] tops, great pants in fabric.
[00:19:03] Renée Lindo: That's gonna breathe and stretch with you. Maybe not Blake, maybe blazer, but maybe I just over a piglet or it's a vest or a jacket or a cardigan, so great basics. And then you can add in, maybe that funky scar add in maybe a bright color that maybe it's trending. No. And maybe that you don't like all the time and annual pass rates are really
[00:19:28] Nola Simon: shining right now.
[00:19:30] Renée Lindo: Accessories are always shine. And I always in accessories or accessories. Great. Because they could, they change the mood. They can, you can communicate your personality if you love animal print, but you're in a conservative environment. You may not maybe look to wear an animal print blazer or animal print.
[00:19:47] Renée Lindo: Maybe I've blown a bit too much, but if you added a scar or if maybe your shoe, the animal prints you maybe, or a belt, maybe you could get away with something like. But I really think, invest in quality [00:20:00] pieces. For the majority of rewarded, when you talked about fast fashion or sorry, I'm being, yeah, you did talk about flash fashion, but it is, there are places like H and M and Zara that are notoriously what we know as fast fashion.
[00:20:13] Renée Lindo: They're starting to be more conscious and really invest and think about how they're manufacturing and the types of pieces that they're manufacturing and even, so they have those lines within the umbrella of Zara, H and M, but even if it was outside of those lines, part of fast fashion is that people it's so cheap that the people are buying trends.
[00:20:36] Renée Lindo: And so they throw them off. And then they're constantly rebuying, but I've been able to work with clients, even my stuff. And when I find pieces at, quote-on-quote fast fashion retailers, but if it's a piece that works well for my body shape piece of, I love a piece that matches my personality, I'm way to get a lot of wear out of that.
[00:20:58] Renée Lindo: So when I invest in that, I'll [00:21:00] bring it for a long time. I have pieces in my closet now from both Zahra and Asians that have had. But it's P and then also some, sometimes the fabrication is not great. So I'm not saying to invest in that, but they have really improved in a lot of their pieces in the quality of the fabrics that they're using.
[00:21:16] Renée Lindo: So I just encourage you to really look at the pieces and look at how they may look at the fabric. And if it's a style that fits your body that you love, you're going to wear it right. And don't buy into. Okay. Something is on trend. Everybody's wearing this. I need to get one. No, if it doesn't suit your lifestyle, as you talked about new Orleans, it doesn't suit your lifestyle.
[00:21:37] Renée Lindo: If you don't really love it, then what? You're not going to wear it much. It's a waste. So I I really think we need to think about that and be intentional with our shop.
[00:21:47] Nola Simon: Yeah, no, it does nobody good. Any good, except maybe my kids they've been losing my closet
[00:21:57] Nola Simon: up on my kids
[00:21:59] Renée Lindo: and then, and, talk to her [00:22:00] about shopping. I always recommend people start shopping in their closet first, before they head out to shop and buy new stuff, go through their closet, start shopping in their closet because there's so many gems that I am covering. People's closets that, Hidden underneath the layers and layers of stuff that we keep buying and putting on top that we forget that we have some great pieces, but it's really that important first step to get rid of what no longer serves you, what doesn't fit, what no longer suits your lifestyle, get rid of that stuff and really hone in on what you love and what fits you.
[00:22:34] Renée Lindo: Now, that's the other thing we're not creating closets of. I'm going to lose those. I'm going to lose those 10 pounds. We're not doing. All right, we're good. Now, if you're really loving, maybe we put it somewhere else and you give yourself a timeframe. If I haven't lost this wage in X amount of time, then I'm going to give, because it's really important.
[00:22:52] Renée Lindo: The other thing is really put to really embrace the bodies that we have now. Yeah. Really important for us to live in the present and not [00:23:00] constantly be waiting in the waiting, everything to get to a certain size before we live in. No, or leaving this even like
[00:23:06] Nola Simon: an engagement thing that you can do, if you have friends like have Herbie and like
[00:23:13] Renée Lindo: exchange them clothes that are amazing,
[00:23:15] Nola Simon: that
[00:23:16] Renée Lindo: might fit somebody else that you know, yeah. That is a figure that people do those clothes swaps where they'll do that and meet and change. Because again, it's brand new to you and brand new to everyone else and you get you, you don't spend any. Yeah,
[00:23:28] Nola Simon: exactly. That's fun to you. So let's talk about shoes. I had somebody on Instagram the other day and she got brand new shoes.
[00:23:36] Nola Simon: They were sneakers, they were silvery Goldie thing, and I'm like, Hey, did they change the dress code to the lab? And she's no, but I got to sneak it in. Try it
[00:23:44] Renée Lindo: anyway. Tell me what about shoes is happening? Like
[00:23:48] Nola Simon: what are you seeing with that? Because. People who are craving like the high end, pretty high yield shoes.
[00:23:55] Renée Lindo: And they're just
[00:23:57] Nola Simon: biding their time until I have an excuse to [00:24:00] wear them. And then I've got people who never went. I've seen people who never want to wear high heels again. And I would be a metric.
[00:24:05] Renée Lindo: Yes. I've done. So I've done several polls on LinkedIn, or maybe a few polls on LinkedIn asking about shoes.
[00:24:11] Renée Lindo: I've seen articles talking about. Kiehl's versus flax and I've posted that and I'm seeing the same thing. We have two very distinct camps. We have the people who cannot wait to get their feet back into some heels because they've hit to being, not being able to wear them. And then we have those.
[00:24:30] Renée Lindo: They would not want to be anywhere near a pair of stilettos. Some of them, their feet can't even get into their shoes. And I hear that quite a bit like, oh, I prep my feet. Can't even get into those shoes. So two camps for me, I like my heels. So I, I do both. I can't wear high, used to have plantar fasciitis.
[00:24:51] Renée Lindo: So I, I do other things and I love my sneaks on my flats as well, but I just think. For me. And I almost knew that I [00:25:00] work, but I just think there's a time and an occasion then. And an appropriateness, if you're dressed up, going to a wedding or going somewhere, I just find that he'll maybe more, it may feature outfit nights.
[00:25:13] Renée Lindo: So sure. There are flats that are cute as well, but it's depending on your outfit, you may call for it. You know what we're seeing now, I guess now winter time in north America, we're seeing boots with these very thick stalls souls. Either hate them or not. I was not a fan star. These are so clumsy that, but I got to tell you, they have grown on me.
[00:25:39] Renée Lindo: I think I have one, two, either two or three pairs of them. Oh yes. Not the big chunky ones, but there's a soul and there is some lungs going on, but not over the top. So Jack hiking in the Backwoods. Yeah. No, but it does say so, and that's the other thing with trends, right?
[00:25:58] Renée Lindo: You want to, you see [00:26:00] the trend, but then you say, okay, how can I make it work? I can't go all the way, but I do want to, you may want to participate so that you still feel current and you still like you, you still want to feel like your yeah. Your parents. And so you can do it, but maybe not the full way.
[00:26:15] Renée Lindo: And the other thing is don't be like, you have to participate. If there's a trend that, Correct or that doesn't jive with you, right? I think it's okay to say that I'm going to sit that on out. I'm going to sit that one out. That doesn't work for me, my lifestyle now, but yeah, so we're seeing boots and we're seeing more of that log.
[00:26:33] Renée Lindo: So then I'm also seeing selector boots. That's runner type shoes, runners, sneakers, right? Seeing that. So those more and boots.
[00:26:46] Renée Lindo: Oh, I'm seeing those. Yeah.
[00:26:54] Renée Lindo: That's one that I'm waiting to see. I'm going to pass on. I, yeah, [00:27:00] no, I can't do that, but I've seen them with yeah. Pens and blazers. Yeah. Cool.
[00:27:07] Nola Simon: Cool. Yeah, I think it honestly, we'll call trend. That's really going on with the world forward to it's a personalization, right? That's happening in the world.
[00:27:14] Nola Simon: People are used to streaming, like they watch Netflix and they choose exactly what they want. And I think there's a demand to be able to do that at work. And it only makes sense that it's really filtering down when you get,
[00:27:25] Renée Lindo: it's such a great point, because I think as I talk about fashion and style and the personal status is a big.
[00:27:32] Renée Lindo: I think for me is that I want people to be confident in their personal style and what they love and what they resonate with. Yes, we have the trends and yes, you have the fashion, but I don't subscribe to people being trendy. I think there's a difference between not, I think there is a difference between being trended and I'm trend and at least knowing what is trending so that you can feel.
[00:27:56] Renée Lindo: There is a difference trendy. You just fly [00:28:00] by night. It comes and goes. Those are trends. But when you're when you know what the trends are and you're able to apply it to your lifestyle and what you love, that's just more about you being current, right? We don't want to show up looking dated, especially in the workplace because people associate you with your, if you have a dated attire, they associate your.
[00:28:23] Renée Lindo: It's also being dated. They figure that, oh, she's not up-to-date with her skills either. So they'll put you in that same basket, if you don't look like you're. Yeah, human nature, right?
[00:28:38] Nola Simon: Yeah. I think it's a bias that people have to counter. Why not make it easy for them to avoid?
[00:28:45] Renée Lindo: Exactly. Yeah. And I'm not saying that you need to go out and buy the latest and greatest trends, but you can still look. With your pieces, because remember if you're investing in timeless pieces right there, you're still going to, you're going to look current because there are [00:29:00] timeless.
[00:29:01] Renée Lindo: Yeah, exactly.
[00:29:04] Nola Simon: Very cool. I have loved chatting with you about this fashion thing I've interested in fashion and I, I know the power of it. And so I I, that's why I wanted to have you on here because I think people, they may not be able to control everything that's going on in their world.
[00:29:19] Nola Simon: There's lots of changes, lots of mandate. But you can pick out, a piece that's going to make you feel good and that pop of color is going to remind you of good feelings. And then you just embrace what it is you can
[00:29:31] Renée Lindo: control.
[00:29:32] Nola Simon: I thought that what you're doing and how you're helping people empower themselves that way, it's just
[00:29:38] Renée Lindo: such a important topic.
[00:29:41] Renée Lindo: Thank you. And on that, in terms of control, especially we talk about, working from home. And boundaries is a big thing, rather than being able to set up, set our boundaries and being able to work within boundaries are important. I tell my class and said, Hey, user coding as [00:30:00] boundaries.
[00:30:00] Renée Lindo: When you're getting, when you're ready for work, you put on your work working clothes. And so you're in the mindset. And of course we know that from again, data, when you get dressed the worker in the mindset of work, and then when work is over, you take off those work clothes and you put on your home clothes, your conflict, cause you're launching.
[00:30:19] Renée Lindo: So it's a trigger. It's a switch in your brain that tells your brain that okay, I'm off. And that really helps because when we started in the pandemic, Complaints. And we've heard from employees that work with consuming their life work with taking over their whole life. You have the videos, people can see their homes and all of that, but then also the time they spent working and they were disconnected, they were always on.
[00:30:45] Renée Lindo: So when we use, when we change our clothes, that can just be a switch to say, Hey, I'm off work now. And now it's family time, home time. So that has also been. It's also
[00:30:56] Nola Simon: a visual Q2. So for like your family is like family, they [00:31:00] see you in work attire and they know what your working tire is and how that differs from home stuff.
[00:31:05] Nola Simon: It's almost like a visual cue for them to say, okay, I've got to respect.
[00:31:09] Renée Lindo: But this such a good, yeah, good. Such a good point. Especially if you have younger kids, you can treat them. These clothes on or were dressed this way. It's work. If we really quiet, you can't be here. Those types of things so that they can see.
[00:31:22] Renée Lindo: And they, when I'm in these types of clothes, mommy's on.
[00:31:27] Nola Simon: Exactly. Even if you put on like a special bracelet or a ring or whatever, just so that there's a queue,
[00:31:35] Renée Lindo: and what I w I would love people to really understand is that our style is a tool. It's a tool that we can use, too. It gets us from it.
[00:31:44] Renée Lindo: It's a tool to help us to accomplish something. So we, when we're intentional about dress and intentional about how we show up, it's powerful, right? It's it uses a tool to communicate and tell people about us and what we value, what we expect. [00:32:00] And so it tells them. How to respect us.
[00:32:03] Renée Lindo: It communicate, even when we go, before we speak, it tells them something about despite us all, where we show up. And that's why I help clients. When we work on closets to building out their wardrobes, to creating a look book and all of that, it's really helping them to align their image and how they're showing up with their personal brand and what they want it to be known for in work and life.
[00:32:24] Renée Lindo: Yeah.
[00:32:25] Nola Simon: And if you're respecting yourself, you're also teaching people how to treat you.
[00:32:29] Renée Lindo: Yes, absolutely. Such a great point. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:32:37] Nola Simon: I think we're coming to the end of our time. Was there anything last,
[00:32:43] Renée Lindo: if anybody has questions about your style or how they're showing up or, they're not quite sure what hybrid looks like for them or what. Please reach out to me on linked in Renee Lindo. Instagram, am I on under my company? Let's get dressed [00:33:00] now. Sometimes I share a similar thing.
[00:33:02] Renée Lindo: Sometimes it's a bit different. So find me on both places and yeah, always happy to help and have that conversation about style. It's such a powerful tool that I just wish more people tapped into that to realize the. Yeah.
[00:33:16] Nola Simon: And to scale that if you have an employer and you're interested in this topic, talk to your employer about whether you can actually bring Renee into your employee resource group, I'm sure she'd be happy to do this at scale.
[00:33:32] Renée Lindo: Yes. Thank you. And that's a good point because I am speaking to quite a few employee resource groups now, just even on planning next year and the topics that we're going to talk about, because this is, this helps. It helps them in terms of just their whole men, their mentality, their own work, and being more positive about going to work and how we can use our clothing to do that.
[00:33:56] Nola Simon: Yeah. But it also helps employers too. Because if they're creating an environment where [00:34:00] people feel comfortable and there's a. It's exactly easier as long as I'm so glad to hear that you talking to
[00:34:07] Renée Lindo: you. Yes, it helps. It helps. It helps everyone, right? Because if you have great happy employees, they're going to have more production, right?
[00:34:19] Renée Lindo: They're going to be more productive. They're going to want to do work. They're going to want to be engaged and they know that you're putting it. You have things you have supports in place to help them to be their best. So it helps everyone is. Very cool. When you're closing.
[00:34:39] Nola Simon: All right. I will make sure that all of your contact information is in the show notes and we'll have full transcriptions there as well. And awesome.
[00:34:48] Renée Lindo: Feel free to, yes. Thank you so much. Take care. Bye.